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Sage 17 is a 16 ′ 9 ″ / 5.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Jerry Montgomery and built by Sage Marine starting in 2011.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Fixed keel version also available.

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The Sage 17 is a 16.83ft fractional sloop designed by Jerry Montgomery and built in fiberglass by Sage Marine (USA) since 2011.

The Sage 17 is a light sailboat which is a high performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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10 Best Small Sailboats (Under 20 Feet)

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Daniel Wade

December 28, 2023

Compact, easy to trailer, simple to rig, easy to maintain and manage, and affordable, the best small boats all have one thing in common: they offer loads of fun while out there on the water.

So whether you're on a budget or just looking for something that can offer ultimate daytime rides without compromising on safety, aesthetic sensibilities, alternate propulsion, and speed, the best small sailboats under 20 feet should be the only way to go.

Let's be brutally honest here; not everyone needs a 30-foot sailboat to go sailing. They come with lots of features such as electronics, entertainment, refrigeration, bunks, a galley, and even a head. But do you really need all these features to go sailing? We don't think so.

All you need to go sailing is a hull, a mast, rudder, and, of course, a sail. And whether you refer to them as daysailers, trailerable sailboats , a weekender sailboat, or pocket cruisers, there's no better way to enjoy the thrills of coastal sailing than on small sailboats.

There are a wide range of small boats measuring less than 20 feet available in the market. These are hot products in the market given that they offer immense thrills out on the sea without the commitment required to cruise on a 30-footer. A small sailboat will not only give you the feel of every breeze but will also give you the chance to instantly sense every change in trim.

In this article, we'll highlight 10 best small sailboats under 20 feet . Most models in this list are time-tested, easy to rig, simple to sail, extremely fun, and perfect either for solo sailing or for sailing with friends and family. So if you've been looking for a list of some of the best small sailboats , you've come to the right place.

So without further ado, let's roll on.

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The Marlow-Hunter 15 is not only easy to own since it's one of the most affordable small sailboats but also lots of fun to sail. This is a safe and versatile sailboat for everyone. Whether you're sailing with your family or as a greenhorn, you'll love the Hunter 15 thanks to its raised boom, high freeboard, and sturdy FRP construction.

With high sides, a comfortable wide beam, a contoured self-bailing cockpit, and fiberglass construction, the Hunter 15 is certainly designed with the novice sailor in mind. This is why you can do a lot with this boat without falling out, breaking it, or capsizing. Its contoured self-baiting cockpit will enable you to find a fast exit while its wide beam will keep it steady and stable no matter what jibes or weight shifts happen along the way.

This is a small sailboat that can hold up to four people. It's designed to give you a confident feeling and peace of mind even when sailing with kids. It's easy to trailer, easy to rig, and easy to launch. With a price tag of about $10k, the Hunter 15 is a fun, affordable, and versatile boat that is perfect for both seasoned sailors and novices. It's a low-maintenance sailboat that can be great for teaching kids a thing or two about sailing.

Catalina 16.5

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Catalina Yachts are synonymous with bigger boats but they have some great and smaller boats too such as Catalina 16.5. This is one of the best small sailboats that are ideal for family outings given that it has a big and roomy cockpit, as well as a large storage locker. Designed with a hand-laminated fiberglass sloop, the Catalina 16.5 is versatile and is available in two designs: the centerboard model and the keel model.

The centerboard model is designed with a powerful sailplane that remains balanced as a result of the fiberglass centerboard, the stable hull form, and the rudder. It also comes with a tiller extension, adjustable hiking straps, and adjustable overhaul. It's important to note that these are standard equipment in the two models.

As far as the keel model is concerned, this is designed with a high aspect keel as the cast lead and is attached with stainless steel keel bolts, which makes this model perfect for mooring or docking whenever it's not in use. In essence, the centerboard model is perfect if you'll store it in a trailer while the keel model can remain at the dock.

All in all, the Catalina 16.5 is one of the best small sailboats that you can get your hands on for as low as $10,000. This is certainly a great example of exactly what a daysailer should be.

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There's no list of small, trailerable, and fun sailboats that can be complete without the inclusion of the classic Hobie 16. This is a durable design that has been around and diligently graced various waters across the globe since its debut way back in 1969 in Southern California. In addition to being durable, the Hobie 16 is trailerable, great for speed, weighs only 320 pounds, great for four people, and more importantly, offers absolute fun.

With a remarkable figure of over 100,000 launched since its debut, it's easy to see that the Hobie 16 is highly popular. Part of this popularity comes from its asymmetric fiberglass-and-foam sandwiched hulls that include kick-up rudders. This is a great feature that allows it to sail up to the beach.

For about $12,000, the Hobie 16 will provide you with endless fun throughout the summer. It's equipped with a spinnaker, trailer, and douse kit. This is a high-speed sailboat that has a large trampoline to offer lots of space not just for your feet but also to hand off the double trapezes.

Montgomery 17

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Popularly known as the M-17, The Montgomery 17 was designed by Lyle C. Hess in conjunction with Jerry Montgomery in Ontario, California for Montgomery Boats. Designed either with keel or centerboard models, the M-17 is more stable than most boats of her size. This boat is small enough to be trailered but also capable of doing moderate offshore passages.

This small sailboat is designed with a masthead and toe rail that can fit most foresails. It also has enough space for two thanks to its cuddly cabin, which offers a sitting headroom, a portable toilet, a pair of bunks, a DC power, and optional shore, and a proper amount of storage. That's not all; you can easily raise the deck-stepped mast using a four-part tackle.

In terms of performance, the M-17 is one of the giant-killers out there. This is a small sailboat that will excel in the extremes and make its way past larger boats such as the Catalina 22. It glides along beautifully and is a dog in light air, though it won't sail against a 25-knot wind, which can be frustrating. Other than that, the Montgomery 17 is a great small sailboat that can be yours for about $14,000.

Norseboat 17.5

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As a versatile daysailer, Norseboat 17.5 follows a simple concept of seaworthiness and high-performance. This small sailboat perfectly combines both contemporary construction and traditional aesthetics. Imagine a sailboat that calls itself the "Swiss Army Knife of Boats!" Well, this is a boat that can sail and row equally well.

Whether you're stepping down from a larger cruiser or stepping up from a sea kayak, the unique Norseboat 17.5 is balanced, attractive, and salty. It has curvaceous wishbone gaff, it is saucy, and has a stubby bow-sprit that makes it attractive to the eyes. In addition to her beauty, the Norseboat 17.5 offers an energy-pinching challenge, is self-sufficient, and offers more than what you're used to.

This is a small, lightweight, low-maintenance sailboat that offers a ticket to both sailing and rowing adventures all at the same time. At about 400 pounds, it's very portable and highly convenient. Its mainsails may look small but you'll be surprised at how the boat is responsive to it. With a $12,500 price tag, this is a good small sailboat that offers you the versatility to either row or sail.

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If you've been looking for a pocket cruiser that inspires confidence, especially in shoal water, look no further than the Sage 17. Designed by Jerry Montgomery in 2009, the Sage 17 is stable and should heel to 10 degrees while stiffening up. And because you want to feel secure while sailing, stability is an integral feature of the Sage 17.

This is a sailboat that will remain solid and stable no matter which part of the boat you stand on. Its cabin roof and the balsa-cored carbon-fiber deck are so strong that the mast doesn't require any form of compression post. The self-draining cockpit is long enough and capable of sleeping at 6 feet 6 inches.

The Sage 17 may be expensive at $25k but is a true sea warrior that's worth look at. This is a boat that will not only serve you right but will also turn heads at the marina.    

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Having been chosen as the overall boat of the year for 2008 by the Sailing World Magazine, the Laser SB3 is one of the coolest boats you'll ever encounter. When sailing upwind, this boat will lock into the groove while its absolute simplicity is legendary. In terms of downwind sailing, having this boat will be a dream come true while it remains incredibly stable even at extraordinary speed.

Since its debut in 2004, the Laser SB3 has surged in terms of popularity thanks to the fact that it's designed to put all the controls at your fingertips. In addition to a lightweight mast, its T- bulb keel can be hauled and launched painlessly. For about $18,000, the Laser SB3 ushers you into the world of sports sailing and what it feels to own and use a sports boat.

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As a manufacturer, Fareast is a Chinese boat manufacturer that has been around for less than two decades. But even with that, the Fareast 18 remains a very capable cruiser-racer that will take your sailing to the next level. In addition to its good looks, this boat comes with a retractable keel with ballast bulb, a powerful rig, and an enclosed cabin.

Its narrow design with a closed stern may be rare in sailboats of this size, but that's not a problem for the Fareast 18. This design not only emphasizes speed but also makes it a lot easier to maintain this boat. Perfect for about 6 people, this boat punches above its weight. It's, however, designed to be rigged and launched by one person.

This is a relatively affordable boat. It's agile, safe, well-thought-out, well built, and very sporty.

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If you're in the market looking for a small sailboat that offers contemporary performance with classic beauty, the Paine 14 should be your ideal option. Named after its famous designer, Chuck Paine, this boat is intentionally designed after the classic Herreshoff 12.5 both in terms of dimensions and features.

This is a lightweight design that brings forth modern fin keel and spade rudder, which makes it agile, stable, and faster. The Paine 14 is built using cold-molded wood or west epoxy. It has varnished gunnels and transoms to give it an old-time charm. To make it somehow modern, this boat is designed with a carbon mast and a modern way to attach sails so that it's ready to sail in minutes.

You can rest easy knowing that the Paine 14 will not only serve you well but will turn heads while out there.

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Many sailors will attest that their first sailing outing was in a Lido 14. This is a classic sailboat that has been around for over four decades and still proves to be a perfect match to modern small boats, especially for those still learning the ropes of sailing.

With seating for six people, the Lido 14 can be perfect for solo sailing , single-handed sailing, or if you're planning for shorthanded sailing. While new Lido 14 boats are no longer available, go for a functional used Lido 14 and you'll never regret this decision. It will serve you well and your kids will probably fall in love with sailing if Lido 14 becomes their main vessel during weekends or long summer holidays.

Bottom Line

There you have it; these are some of the best small sailboats you can go for. While there are endless small sailboats in the market, the above-described sailboat will serve you right and make you enjoy the wind.

Choose the perfect sailboat, invest in it, and go out there and have some good fun!

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johnstephany65 wrote: Montgomery 15

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Art Haberland wrote: personally, if I were after a small cruising boat, I would be looking at something like a Cape Cod Style catboat.

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Boat Review: Sage Cat / Sage 15

This exciting new microcruiser is available with a choice of rigs.

In our review of the Sage 17 back in issue # 75, we talked about how few production sailboat companies remain. At boat shows in the 1970s and early 80s, the golden era for little plastic boats, you’d see multiple small-boat builders—many with competing models in a variety of classes. But various factors such as rising oil prices, government regulation, the boom-and-bust nature of the economy, and to some extent the extraordinary durability of fiberglass boats themselves, has made the manufacture of small sailboats less lucrative than it once was.

So it was remarkable when Gail and Sal Glesser decided to venture into the market with their own brand of trailersailer. They wisely avoided the biggest risk—building a poor design—by asking recognized and accomplished small-boat designer Jerry Montgomery to draw their boats. Montgomery had, in a previous life, designed a fleet of small boats with which most of you are no doubt familiar—his Montgomery 15 and Montgomery 23 being among the most notable, along with his Montgomery 17 designed by mentor Lyle Hess.

Sage proceeded cautiously at first, focusing on a single design. But following the positive reception and steady sales of the Sage 17, they decided to launch the next boats in the line, the Sage 15 sloop and the SageCat. These two 15-footers share a common hull and look, at a glance, much like the original Montgomery 15, but as with their Sage 17, Jerry Montgomery and Sage were largely trying build a refined version of an already-winning concept, as opposed to starting out with a blank sheet of paper.

“The biggest concern folks had about Jerry’s prior 15-foot design,” says Sage Marine Sales Manager Dave Scobie, “was her cramped interior and lack of sitting headroom below. Both the Sage 15 and the SageCat have two seats with sitting headroom—as much headroom as the Sage 17 in fact.”

Another tradeoff on the original Montgomery 15 was the shoal keel, which although fairly shallow, does make launching and retrieval from shallow ramps more difficult.

“Jerry employed a daggerboard to reduce the Sage 15’s draft versus a shoal keel,” Scobie says. “The retractable board provides ease of launching and retrieving, and the trailer comes standard with guide posts so there is no way you can ‘miss’ the trailer when loading at the ramp. The daggerboard bulb partially nestles into a recesses in the hull, further facilitating launching and retrieval. Another bonus is that she sits low on the trailer, making it easy to climb aboard when inside the garage.”

Of course the daggerboard, which boasts a 220-pound bulb, was chosen for more than just shallow draft. “Folks want to know their boat will stand up to a blow,” Scobie says. “All that lead in the bulb provides exceptional righting moment. There is far more leverage per pound of ballast in a deeper bulbed-daggerboard than in a shoal keel.”

Another big new idea, of course, was offering a cat rig. The thinking that led to the SageCat revolved around simplicity and easier sailing. Besides being somewhat quicker to rig, the SageCat, with its single sail and single sheet, would be easier to single-hand.

“The SageCat will spin inside her own length and just keep going round and round—like the Scamp. And without a headsail it’s very easy to sail to and from the dock,” Scobie says.

“The cat wasn’t my idea,” Jerry Montgomery says. “An interested party suggested the concept in the very early stages, saying ‘This boat would make an excellent catboat’ and I answered that it probably would, but reminded the guy that in the kind of racing I do, if there are 50 boats in the race, only one or two might be catboats, so the market might not be there. He pointed out that essentially all of these other boats were larger, mostly not impressive performers, overpriced, and mostly built on the East Coast with heavy shipping costs to us fortunate West Coasters. The more I thought about it, the more I realized he had a point.”

Scobie acknowledges that developing the SageCat has been a challenge. “You can’t just take away the jib and call a boat a cat,” he says, “We have changed multiple items on the rig multiple times: mast location, mast type, rotation system, gooseneck fitting, mainsheet boom bail, and the thickness of the sail battens.” Jerry Montgomery wrote about some of these same challenges in his recent column in this magazine—how they had to repeatedly adjust the mast location to find proper helm balance.

A vivid example of just how difficult the process can be was the early SageCat prototype dismasting at the Cruiser Challenge in Monterey, California. To Sage’s credit, they do the hard work of prototype testing and striving to get things right. Drawing a boat and “running the numbers” is obviously critical, but it’s out on the water in the wind where you learn for sure what worked and what didn’t.

“We try hard to be very public about what we are doing—including sharing our failures,” Scobie says. (The SageCat dismasting was shown on Sage Marine’s Facebook page live, and the video remains on the site). “Since we started with the Sage 17 in 2011 I’ve pointed out to people that I sail the boats hard. Every time I leave the dock it’s a test sail and I’d rather break something myself than have it break on a future owner.”

With prototypes of both boats now thoroughly tested, Sage Marine is working to fill orders, with the first 15-footer being delivered mid-April.

Over the course of the last year or so we had a chance to sail both the Sage 15 sloop and the SageCat with Dave Scobie on Port Townsend Bay.

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Are the new Montgomery 17s as good as the old ones? Had been looking at a Sanibel 18, but the Montgomery looks like a better design. Any thoughts on buying a new Montgomery 17.  

I have been doing some research into buying a new Montgomery also. From what I have gathered they are every bit as good as when Jerry Montgomery built them. Quality wise they are way above the Sanibel 18s. The Montgomery's are the priciest boat you will find of this size, but I have always heard that the build quality is as good as it gets for a mass produced 17 footer. You might also look at the Sage 17. It is a boat that is not yet in production. It was designed by Jerry Montgomery as an updated Montgomery 17. I know the Sage is a 3/4 rig vrs a 7/8 rig of the Montgomery. There are several other design changes though offhand I don't know what they are. I haven't heard one way or the other if it is built to be and "offshore" boat. Or as much as a 17' can be.  

IIRC, Jerry is still fairly heavily involved with the company and I doubt he'd let the quality of the boats slide much without calling them on it, considering it is HIS NAME that is associated with the boats. A couple years ago, they outfitted a customized M17 for a circumnavigation... so they're pretty tough little boats.  

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