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LM 28 is a 27 ′ 11 ″ / 8.5 m monohull sailboat designed by Bent Juul Andersen and built by LM Glasfiber between 1982 and 1991.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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General - LM 28

GRP motorsailor LM 28 "Torbolé", built in 1987 by LM Glasfiber a/s in Kolding - Denmark, dim.: Loa 8,95 m (Lwl 7,50 m) x 2,90 m x 1,35 m, design by LM Glasfiber, GRP hull, superstructure and deck, round bilged white hull with blue striping, fin keel, displacement: 4,0 tonnes, ballast: 1,55 tonnes, fuel tank: 140 litres, fresh water tank: 140 litres, sump tank, wheel steering, emergency tiller.

Accommodation

Classic teak interior, wheelhouse with galley, saloon + front cabin, 2 (+3) berths, headroom: approx. 1,78 m, marine head with wash bowl and manual toilet (in waste tank), Wallas Marine heating, hot water through boiler (runs on 220V and engine), electric water pressure system, galley with sink, two burner gas stove and a fridge (under helm seat) and crockery,

Volvo Penta 3 cylinder 28 hp diesel engine , Saildrive, engine control system, consumption approx.: 3 litres per hour, cruising speed: 6 knots, maximum speed: 7 knots, batteries: 1x 90 ah + 1x 73 ah, electric circuit: 12V/220V, shore power, Calina battery charger.

Silva compass, Echopilot 770, Sumlog SL log - must be checked, wind set: speed, Sailtron RT80 VHF - no Atis, Autohelm autopilot.

Cockpit cover, winter cover for cockpit, cockpit table, teak on cockpit benches, life jackets, boarding ladder s/s, two wired sea railing s/s, two wipers.

Sloop rigged, John Mast a/s aluminium mast, head sail furling system, fittings s/s, standing rig s/s, slab reefing system, sails: main sail 16 m2 + genoa I 23 m2 + spare, sail cover, back stay adjuster, boom vang, two winches in cockpit and two Anderson two-speed winches, spi pole.

Review of LM 28

Basic specs..

The boat is typically equipped with an inboard Volvo Penta 2003 diesel engine at 28.0 hp (20 kW), which gives a max speed about 6.4 knots.

The transmission is a saildrive.

The fuel tank which is made of stainless steel has a capacity of 140 liters (36 US gallons, 30 imperial gallons).

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for LM 28 is 1.81, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 6.6 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for LM 28 is about 145 kg/cm, alternatively 816 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 145 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 816 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

What is Relative Speed Performance?

Maintenance

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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.

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Make & Model

MEASUREMENTS

Description.

LM28 Bilge Keel Motorsailer Built in 1987 and fitted with a NEW (2016) Volvo D 130, 3 cylinder, 29hp inboard diesel engine. All New Standing Rigging 2017, New Canvas Cockpit Enclosure (2018), well equipped and in very good order throughout. Lying Ashore Bangor

Construction

Scandinavian built LM28 Motorsailer. Disigned by Bent Juul Andersen and built by L M Glasfiber in Denmark. Offwhite GRP Hull and decks with navy blue sheer line. Encapsulated twin keel with additional skeg to protect saildrive. Wheel steering in wheelhouse with tiller steering in cockpit to skeg hung semi-balanced rudder. 

Sails And Spars

Masthead sloop In-mast mainsail furling Anodised aluminium mast & boom Single swept back spreader Boom vang Stainless steel standing rigging - New 2017 Furling Headsail system 2 x 2 speed winches

• Furling mainsail 
• Furling genoa 
• Spinnaker by Elstrom plus pole and gear  

Accommodation

4 berths in 2 cabins plus saloon Cabin heating  

Forecabin Forecabin with V berth convertible to double with infill cushion Opening hatch to foredeck Storage compartments in hull sides Storage under berths

Heads Compartment Heads compartment to Port Full marine tiolet Sliding handbasin unit with pressurised hot/cold water Storage cupboard above handbasin Opening hatch   Large hanging locker opposite heads  Saloon Large saloon area with standing headroom 2 x Settees facing folding wooden table Port settee converts to single berth, starboard settee converts to a single berth Storage lockers and shelves behind and above settees Storage under settees Windows to coachroof port and starboard with curtains Companion-way steps to wheelhouse with door between Inside helm position to starboard with single helm seat Wooden steering wheel Throttle/engine controls & gauges Marine electronics Three part windscreen with electric wipers Large opening roof roof panel

Galley Galley area to port with full standing headroom Plastimo two burner gas stove with oven and grill Fold down worktop to cover stove Fridge  Stainless steel sink with hot & cold pressurised water . New Calorifier fitted 2016 Storage cupboards and draws under sink unit Windows to coachroof with curtains Cockpit Self draining cockpit Step up to deep cockpit area through double sliding doors Bench seating port & starboard with storage lockers under Folding table Gas locker Moulded GRP insulated engine bay situated under cockpit sole Tiller Full cockpit enclosure New 2018 Cockpit cushions  

Engine/Electrical

Powered by Volvo D130, 3 cylinder 29hp diesel engine (NEW 2017) Single lever controls with electric start mounted in wheelhouse and cockpit Saildrive driving 3 bladed fixed propeller Full engine instrumentation 3 x 12V Batteries-1 x Dedicated starting, 2 x domestic  Charged via engine alternator Shorepower system with 240V ring main Hot water Calorifier 

60 watt Solar Panel mounted on coachroof new 2016

Deck Equipment

• Anchors with chain & warp
• Self draining anchor locker
• Stainless steel pulpit, pushpit and stantions
• Stainless steel guard wires
• Pushpit mounted outboard bracket
• Mooring cleats with fairleads
• Cockpit table
• New folding cockpit enclosure
• Stainless steel folding bathing ladder
• Cockpit cushions
• Warps & fenders
• Cockpit Cover new 2018
• Spray Dodgers New 2017

Navigation Equipment

• Autohelm 2000
• Echosounder
• Speed ,log & Wind
• Radar Reflector
• Navigation lights

Safety Equipment

• Manual and electric bilge pumps
• Fire extinguishers
• Bathing ladder 
• Gas detector
• Safety Harness

Owners Comments

Additional and Improvements since purchase by  current owner in 2016:-

• New Cockpit Floor Supplied by Tiflex
• New Chart Rack, oil Lamp, Clock & Barometer
• New Jabsco Toilet
• New anchor Chain spliced to anchorplat T/W new anchor connector
• 3 primary seacocks replaced
• New stainless steel folding mast step
• VHF aerial and cable replaced
• Bi port and starboard bow, and stern white lights replaced with LED
• New Volvo D130 29HP 
• All Standing rigging replaced 2017
• New Furlex genoa furling gear
• New 20 ltr calorifier 
• Windscreen wipers replaced ( arms and Blades)
• 2 Domestic batteries
• New Canvas cockpit enclosure (2018)
• New Dodgers
• New MOB recovery system
• 60 watt solar panel
• Most of the running rigging replace
• New Spinnaker by elvstrom

There are a number of improvements, many small in detail but in total adding to the overall comfort and efficiency such as Kettle stand, Outboard Bracket, re varnishing and improving many wooden trims, improvised cockpit bed/ sun lounger etc etc

She is a Tough pocket motor sailor.

We have owned Josaphine just 3 seasons, but we have covered more the 2500 miles during that period.

  he is a very capable cruiser with the added benefit of twin keels, which have proved extremely useful on the few occasions we have overnighted in drying harbours, such as Hayle or St Ives.

Two years ago we ventured into Scottish waters, making the long passage via the Isle of Man and Northern Ireland. We enjoyed some wonderful anchorages and magnificent scenery, venturing as far as Inveraray and Tobermory, subsequently making a long and slow retreat back to North Wales.

Last year we cruised right down to the beautiful Isles of Scilly, via Bardsey Island, Solva, Milford Haven and Padstow. The Isles of Scilly are well worth the effort of venturing out into the Atlantic Ocean. Predominately shallow water which again favours the sailing vessel drawing just 3ft 8inc and capable of taking the ground.

The LM 28, with their characteristic sheltered, internal steering gives total comfort, warmth and protection, especially suited to Scottish waters when the weather changes and the security of the wheelhouse becomes a safe haven for the helmsman and crew alike.

The Volvo D1-30 has proved more than adequate in maintaining highly respectable average speeds.

Capable of consuming a miserly 1.5 litres per hour, at 1700rpm and 5.8 knots through the water.

All in all an excellent boat for her size, truly capable of fulfilling respectable and adventurous passages, in both comfort and security. Now ready to take her new owners on a fresh adventure.

Cruising Speed

Engine Count

Engine Horse Power

Max Speed Knots

Propeller Type

3 Blade, Alloy

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Bent Juul Andersen

Hull Material

Double Berths

Single Berths

Twin Berths

Displacement(kgs)

3628.74 kilograms

Drive Transmission Description

1.12 meters

Engine Year

Engine Type

Fuel Tanks Capacity

No of Heads

Water Tanks Capacity

ABOUT LM 28

The LM 28 is a 28 feet long that boasts a 9.5 feet beam. and a draft of 1.16 meters.This 1987 diesel LM 28 is powered by a Volvo D130, with 29.0 horsepower, capable of reaching a maximum speed of 7.3 knots and a cruising speed of 5.8 knots. The LM 28 is made of fiberglass.

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LM 28 or Hunter Pilot 27?

• Thread starter Falling Star
• Start date 9 Aug 2019

Falling Star

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I've kind of narrowed our choice for the next boat down to one of these two. So which is the best? Is there much difference in sailing performance? Also, in no particular preference, which one is: Most comfortable? Feeling of space inside? Visibility when steering and general handling? Ease of servicing the engine, stern gland etc. ? Quality of build? Lack of issues? All opinions gratefully received. Thank you.  

LittleSister

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I may be biased, as I have an LM 27 (predecessor of the LM28). LMs are very well built - well above the standard of most British built boats of that era. They are full of really clever, practical and pleasing details. Comfortable. Excellent feeling of space for their size, and the 'built in' (original standard equipment) cockpit canopy effectively gives you an extra room when tied up. Note that the LM28 was in a later range of LMs (along with the LM26, LM30 and LM32), which developed the strengths of the preceding range (LM24, LM27). The earlier boats had shallow draft long keels, hull shapes derived from Baltic fishing boats, and conventional stern shaft drive propulsion, and were hugely successful in sales numbers. They sail much better than you would imagine from their chunky look. The later range retained the general approach to interior layout, added a whole host of refinements along with more modern interior and exterior styling, and had significantly different (from the earlier range) 'yacht' shaped hulls, with fin keels (a few have bilge keels) and propulsion via saildrives. I am not aware of any particular difficulties in engine, etc. servicing. They don't have a stern gland as they have a saildrive. Good visibility from the wheelhouse. Visibility from the cockpit not so great, as you have the wheelhouse somewhat in the way looking forward. Some owners build seats in the aft quarters to give a clear view over the wheelhouse (see owners website below). Although LM no longer produce boats (they are now the largest producer of wind turbine blades in the world, which tells you something about their FRP skills and quality control), many of the parts (e.g. canopies, sails, etc.) are still available off the shelf from the other Danish companies who supplied the original equipment to LM. English language LM owners site (predominantly, but not exclusively, UK) here: http://lmowners.proboards.com You will find a wealth of info if you rummage around or ask questions. Danish owners site here: https://lmklubben.dk Before I bought the LM I had been quite interested in the Hunter Pilot 27. I am sure they are fine boats, too, but one of the things that really put me off was the apparent lack of any horizontal shelving/storage to just put things down, and after reading around I wasn't convinced that the inside steering position was that practical.  

When I looked at them the Hunter seemed very plastic compared to the LM  

Ohlin Karcher

Have you looked at a Halberg Monsun?  

Ohlin Karcher said: Have you looked at a Halberg Monsun? Click to expand...

• 11 Aug 2019

oldmanofthehills

As an LM27 owner I admit bias and Navigator really really likes it and ability to steer very comfortably from wheel house. The interior of LM27 is exactly the same as the later LM28 and Scanyacht 290. If we could have afforded the slightly bigger newer versions we would have. The hull of LM28 and Scanyacht290 is similar quality but more pointy at bows thus faster and having a bit more between mast and bows thus bigger foresail for very similar weight. The LM27 rolls a bit due to v shallow draft and fishing boat hull. Just like an 8m fishing boat in fact, but this should be less with the LM28. The LMs usually come with full canvas cockpit hood and you can motor away or even sail with it up with care. Good for outings in usual shite UK weather. View from tiller poor when trying to keep away from cooking in pilothouse though. Possibly the Hunter sails marginally better, but the LMs sail well enough for cruiser and has reasonable sail area to displacement ration, and the dirty little secret is that those who of us who travel round the UK coast use the old Iron Topsail quite a lot. The only LM downside is lack of seating provided for two in the wheel house. Cushion on top of closed up galley unit to port plus a footrest, sorts that out.  

I'm struggling with the choice. Coming from motor boats, I am tempted by the Hunter's design as this seems more like a motor boat, but with sails - if that makes any sense. On the other hand, we do want a sailing boat now, so it would seem logical to choose the one that arguably sails better. Another plus for the LM is that the engines on the 27/28 seem to be larger than the 14hp in the Hunter. Years ago, we had an old Nauticat and I remember that we probably did as much motoring as sailing, so maybe a bigger engine would be an advantage. But, I'm thinking that whatever boat we get, it shouldn't be too old as I'm not finding maintenance so easy now. I realise that 'newer' doesn't necessarily equate to better reliability but the LMs are earlier than the Hunters............... I haven't had a Saildrive before. Maybe they are better than the conventional shaft? Or not? Thanks for the replies so far.  

Falling Star said: Coming from motor boats, I am tempted by the Hunter's design as this seems more like a motor boat, but with sails - if that makes any sense. On the other hand, we do want a sailing boat now, so it would seem logical to choose the one that arguably sails better. Click to expand...

• 12 Aug 2019

dancrane said: I think you mean the LM is more like a motorboat with sails, but you're right about the decision you have to make. As a previous motor-boater, the effect of dropping the wonderful comfort of genuine weatherproof helming, and committing yourself instead to a boat which will put you outside almost all of the time, in all weather , needs careful thinking about. I like Hunters, and I belong to their association, but even as a keen sailor, I'd always prefer the LM's genuine 50:50 motor/sailor design. They make no pretence about being sharp sailing machines (although they're said to be much better than their styling might suggest) but when the wind is on the nose and it's cold and the rain begins, you'll prefer a boat with a commanding inside helm position. The Hunter's great, but it's more like a pure sailing boat. That means biting the bullet and buying lots of expensive foul-weather gear. Click to expand...

dancrane said: If appearances matter, I think the Dane has a big advantage. It's chunky and purposeful and the wheelhouse is clearly designed to make the boat comfortable to helm in miserable weather, while the saloon stays below decks. Whereas, (in my view) the Hunter looks like what it is...a roomy saloon squeezed without much finesse onto a not very big hull, and made almost tall enough to enable steering from inside. It looks to me like the LM hasn't compromised its purpose, although it likely compromises some performance...meanwhile the Hunter probably compromises the effectiveness of the interior helm, in order to make it a better sailing boat. No idea if that's how they perform, but I like the LM's all-weather approach better than the half-and-half approach of the British boat. I expect that anybody who seriously wants to ensure their boat needn't be a cold wet place in cold wet weather, would rather take the dedicated-wheelhouse route than the deck saloon way. Deck saloon owners usually say they'd rather steer outside anyway. Click to expand...

Seajet said: +1, have sailed both; the LM is way more soildly built, but the Hunter is quite a lot faster especially in light winds - and passage making speed often equates to safety, getting into port before gales. However one of them will look after you if caught out in heavy weather and here's a clue - it isn't the Hunter. Click to expand...

matt1 said: Tell that to the guy who took delivery of his Pilot 27 and sailed it singlehanded across Biscay, encountering a Force 9. Seemed to look after him ok - he was pretty praiseworthy afterwards! If I could find the article I'd post a link Click to expand...

Hmm, I don't want to suggest the Hunter Pilot isn't a good boat, I'm pretty sure it would be my choice above many other designs... ...but, from the OP's perspective, which we may assume allowed him (and his passengers) not to have to endure every foul thing the weather sent, the LM is probably a more fitting choice. I see that I said above "the LM hasn't compromised its purpose". Of course, its purpose is itself a compromise, but the design works faithfully to that division of uses. Whereas, in my view, the Hunter Pilot has tried to appeal to owners who want sailing performance and the option of weatherproof helming, but compromised the compromise by letting the sailing aspect dominate the design.  

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I prefer the LM, but the aft cabin on the Hunter appeals to me. Hunter also has self tacking jib which makes sense on this sort of boat. Does the LM have a self-tacker?  

I'm getting the feeling the Hunter is being dismissed as not being as 'proper' a boat as the LM. Probably got too much of a mobo look. I considered both and bought the Hunter. Didn't look round any LM's, so can only give half the picture. So far though I'm very happy with the Hunter – have done some Solent pottering and a two week trip stopping at points west out to Salcombe and back. I don't get the 'compromised interior helm' comment. At 6'1" I can stand at the interior helm, as I can in nearly all of the deck saloon (or I can sit on the flap out seat), there’s fine all-round visibility, I can control the engine. What's lacking? Maybe you have to clamber up the companionway steps to grab a sheet - bit awkward in a rush. The sense of space is awesome. The deck saloon 'living room' is always set up ready for you to cook, sit to eat at the table, wash up etc. all with harbour views. Cabins are good and roomy - aft double berth was a big draw for me. Headroom is compromised at the deck saloon forward settee berth and the sink, but by no means un-workable. At sea the motion is good and steady. Handling is fine. Turns quickly enough, forward and reverse, in the marina. Feels very solidly build. Plenty of wood, wouldn't say it was plasticky at all - look at the pictures. Ultimately, I'm guessing the LM has a higher standard of joinery - companionway steps of the Hunter look a little bit rough and ready. Engine access is fine. Remove companionway steps for front access. Remove panels in the aft berth for rear access - engine water cock, stern gland burping etc. No issues so far, apart from groaning noise, as per PBO forum post - probably blocked up cutlass bearing flutes or something. Nothing to do with the boat design. Can’t comment on the heavy weather sea-worthiness. With modern weather forecasting, not a big issue for me. Suspect it will be fine (as per Bay of Biscay adventure). Not convinced long keels are the be all and end all. Drawbacks? Would like more speed/sailing excitement. You can’t have it all though, am happy with the compromise.  

It's a tough choice for sure. Both fine boats with many good features. Re. the Pilot, - I've seen a couple with spray hoods. Has anyone ever fitted a full cockpit cover? Would it be practical to do that?  

Roger, you make the Hunter sound very attractive.  

• 13 Aug 2019

Not to me you dont. Navigator copes with this ageing Viking if she can get to see new UK harbours undrenched and uncontorted. LMs do what they say on tin. Hunters are fine boats but...  

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LM 28 Boat for Sale

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• mechanical and rigging
• Manufacturer: LM
• Location: Solva
• LOA: 28'8" (8.74m)
• Beam: 9' 6'' (2.90m)
• Draft: 1.12
• Keel: Twin Keel
• ID no.: 23F7647553
• Heating: Yes
• Watertank Size: 140 Litres
• Engine Make: Beta
• Horsepower: 25hp
• Drive Type: Saildrive
• Fuel Type: 0
• Fuel Tank Size: 140 Litres
• Cruise Speed: 6 kn
• Top Speed: 7.5 kn
• Engine Hours Starboard: 373

Broker Remarks

A renowned build the LM28 is a trusted Danish built motor cruiser offering very comfortable sailing and living onboard. Starfinder is an exceptionally well maintained vessel with multiple upgrades in her present ownership. Beta 25 engine new in 2015 with 373 hours. Upgraded electonic navigation. Heating and hot and cold water sysytems. This bilge keeler is ideal for coastal cruising and longer passages. What ever the weather you are protected from the elements. Look sharp! LM28's in this condtion will sail away quickly.

Accommodation

Wheelhouse & Navigation Suite

Helm seat -  New 2016

Wheel and tiller steering

Beta Marine engine control panel

Silva Mag Compass

Raymarine ST50 Electric compass

Raymarine ST60 Tridata depth/speed/log -  New 2015

Standard Horizon Matirx AIS VHF Radio with DSC -  New 2012

Raytheon R10 Radar

Standard Horizon CP300i Chartplotter with GPS/AIS UK & European Charts -  New 2012 Cmap chartds - Updated 2018

Raymarine wheel and tiller Autopilot with SPX5 ST6002 controller -  New 2015

Raymarine wireless autopilot remote control Echopilot fls bronze forward looking sonar

Insulated backstay for SSB

Stainless steel sink with hot and cold water mixer tap

Surecal Calorifier -  New 2018

Neptune 4500 2 x gas hob with oven and grill -  New 2015

Isotherm Fridge

Ample stowage

Comfortable living with 6ft headroom and Eberspacher D3LC heating throughout. SureCal Calorifier -  New 2018  for hot and cold water supply. Mahogony joinery complimented with beige upholstery and curtains. LED lighting to all cabins

Bench seating to port and starboard double as 2 single berths

2 Leaf folding saloon table

Ample stowage above and below seating

Ships clock and and barometer

Radio/CD with saloon and cockpit speakers

V Berth with infill for comfortable double berth

Hatch to fore deck

Sliding privacy door

Jabsco marine toilet -  New 2014

Vetus 61ltr holding tank -  New 2014

Sink with hot and cold water mixer tap

Mirror and stowage

Access to wiring which has been extensivley rewired throughout

2 x Batteries -  New 2018

220v and 12v

Sterling battery charger 

.34w Solar panel

Shorepower with galvanic isolator

Mechanical and Rigging

HIN:  083622

GRP Hull and decks

Hull epoxied - 1992

Beta 25 -  New 2015

Engine hours 373

Serviced -  October 2019

SP60 Saildrive - New 2015

Sails and Rigging

Sloop rigged with John Mast spars

Stainless steel standing rigging -  New 2012

Maxi Roach mast furling mainsail - 1994

Furlex system -  New 2012

Rastey foam luff genoa -  New 2012

Cruising chute and snuffer

Kobra Anchor with 30m chain and 30m warp -  New 2014

Danforth kedge anchor SL Electric windlass with foot switch, cockpit control and wireless remote

Fenders and warps

Boarding ladder

Cockpit shower -  New 2018

Cockpit cushions

2 x Anderson ST28 2 speed self tailing winches -  New 2018

Schultz cockpit tent - 2001 - stows under wheelhouse rear arcj

Tonneau winter cover -  New 2015

Safety Equipment

Ships ERIRB

Radar reflector

LED Navigation lights

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