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Opinion: C&C Boats? Specifically, 29 Mk 2?

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  • Start date May 30, 2009
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McMikeJr

Wondering if anybody has any experience with C&C? How's the customer service? How solid is the manufacturing? I'm considering a C&C 29 Mk 2 as a replacement for a (very) damaged C27. No, I didn't do it, but that's another story. Any opinions on the company or boat?  

Ted

C&c 29-2 The C&C 29-2 is a great all around boat. There is a lot of confusion about the 29. The 29-1 and 29-2 are two entirely different boats. When you are reading any reviews about the 29, make sure you understand which model the author is writing about. The 29-2 was built between 1983 and 1986. I've owned a 29-2 for 10 years and would be more than happy to discuss it's virtues. You can call me at 631-277-2038. In general, C&C built strong, high quality production boats. They are fast, close winded and hold their value. There are not many 29-2s on the market in the US and they tend to sell quickly. C&C pioneered many construction techniques which were ahead of their time in the boat building industry. The new C&C's are built by Fairport Yachts LTD who also build Tartans. They do very little to support the older model C&C's which were originally built in Canada. There is a company called South Shore Yachts which has many parts and drawing for the original designs. The guys at South Shore worked for the original C&C company and know the designs intimately. If you haven't already done so, check out www.cncphotoalbum.com There is a wealth of information such as copies of the original brochures, reviews, photos and specifications. You can even purchase a copy of the original owner's manual on line. Some of the reviews about the 29-1 make reference to the newer model 29-2 so you might want to read both reviews. All of the 29-2 models came with a Yanmar diesel engine while the 29-1 had Atomic 4 gas engines. The 29-2 has a solid fiberglass hull with no core material except in the deck. The hull to deck flange is very strong and C&C did not use any core in that area which eliminates the potential for wet core along the entire joint and stantion bases. The C&C 29-2 is a true dual purpose sailboat. They still race competitively and afterwards you can relax below with real creature features. They are raced as a one design fleet in upstate NY (Lake Ontario) which helps maintain their high interest and value when it comes time to sell. If you like sailing a quick, responsive boat, the 29-2 is one to take a close look at. Like most of the C&C Yachts, they were designed to be performance biased and handle accordingly.  

druid

I've never owned one (they just don't "speak to me" for some reason...). They are indeed very well-built boats, and very fast, especially upwind. They do tend to be "rode hard and put away wet" a lot, so some used ones are pretty...used. They also often still have the Atomic 4 gas engine, since racers don't use the engine much. druid  

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William12213

My Last boat was a C&C 27. It was a very well built, fast boat that was fun to sail. The hulls are solid with no core (I know because I bored a hole in mine). Mine did have an atomic 4 in it but that really isn't a problem. The main problem with the engine at least in my boat was a small fuel tank. I loved the boat and the way it sailed but it was just to small for long trips. After a couple of weeks I really started to feel cramped. Some have been sailed pretty hard and abused while others were maintained very well so shop around.  

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Rudder bearing replacement C&C 36 + other issues

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Dear ... Forum Before i point my questions, a short introduction to Sailnet and her users! April 2014 i bought a C&C 36, 1980 in Miami. Sailed her through the Bahamas, Haiti (where the canoo boys made some nice deep scratches), Dominican Republic to Curaçao. Now docked in Curaçao, this year i had a very relaxed and beautiful trip to Bonaire, Los Aves and Los Roques. In februari 2016 i hope more enjoyable sails to come through Los Roques, then heading st. Martin (Maybe, just maybe from Los Roques, before heading to st. Martin a sail to mainland Venezuela, Pt. Cabello for some wood and canvas work...). Before this sail to st. Martin i have to do some work. I will haul out at Curaçao Marine for about a month . -Strip and paint entire Hull. -Osmosis (or not?) above the waterline?. -Replacement rudder bearings. -Replacement front hatch, check rudder meganics. -Build in rudder adjuster for raymarine p70 wheel. -New Canvas Bimini. (eventually later in Venezuale and/or design of a new frame). -Paint deck and tub(?). -Maintanance Winches. -Repair/replace Outboard -Constructing a 40 ft. Jacob's ladder I want to strip the anti fouling from the bottom (it has allready fall off at 3 or 4 places, about 1mm thick small plates...) and i want to strip the paint above the waterline too. What concerns me more is: I have blisters +- 7 to 9 inches above the waterline. These blisters almost totally disappeare when the boat is at dock for a few months, but after a week to 10 days of sailing they start to grow up again. Getting worse a little about every day when sailing (and at a certain level it seems to stop...). I read about "the underwater section of the hull has 7 layers of fibre and above the waterline just 5 layers". At the transistion of these layers it should happen more often that blisters appear. Under the waterline i have no bubbles or blisters at all. So I think i can say i don't have to worry about Osmosis (?). Question?: If i strip the entire hull. Thinking about the 220+ Haitian scratches, would it be recommendable to add a new gell coat before painting? Besides I have a rudder problem! The bearings of the rudder seem to get bad (It started just a few days after leaving Miami, tightened the upper bolt and been sailing about 75 days since...). Now, when i dive at the very bottom of the rudderblade i can move (tilt) it about half an inch. The upper bolt (above on the deck behind the helm) is moving and cracking (!) maybe about a quarter inch max during sailing, and cracking quite loud when there is sudden pressure on the rudderblade. I tightend the ground plate from the upperbolt a few times. The Caribbean Sea can be nasty, so i tend to search for good windows but i think when the going gets tough the rudder could get bad rapidly...? Bearings for the rudder might be hard to get in Curaçao, ordering from there can take a long time, so i want to bring the bearings from the Netherlands. I have been reading the internet but some time ago i could only find someone (with superb explainations and foto's) working on a C&C 40 (i think it was), from which the rudder/shaft etc. looks quite similar to my C&C 36.. Though he doesn't give sizes of the 2(?) ruddershaft bearings? Question?: Does anyone has or knows where to find C&C 36, year 1980, ruddershaft bearing measurements ? Can i presume that after 35 years the bearings will be still original/same sizes? i.e. does it happen a lot the rudder gets loose? I am not a real experienced meganic, so on the rudder i definately need help. I spoke to a local meganic and think he does a good job. Thank you so much for replying on my topic. Do excuse me for my not very correct english. Nico  

Faster

Well your English is much better than my Hollanse.. and my parents were born there! Your description of above water blisters is unusual.. has the boat been previously painted? Are you sure it's not still the existing original gelcoat (the blister situation supports (badly prepped) paint). If you can remove old paint, I don't think it's necessary to re-gelcoat.. the gelcoat should still be under the paint. If you can get the paint off cleanly, prep and refair the boat, prep, use good primer and prep, paint again. What type of paint are you considering? Are the rudder bearings actually bushings? If so there must be machine shops in the ABCs that could help you out. There is a good supplier of CnC parts in Canada.. they could probably help you out if you haven't already contacted them: South Shore Yachts | Certified Yacht Broker, C&C Parts and Service btw.. sloppy rudder bushings are pretty common on older boats. I think that vintage of C&C used Bomar hatches, they are still around and Southshore may stock them too.  

You must pull the rudder out of the hull. Do not trust catalogs or other people's opinions on what bearings are installed. Marine manufacturers vary the parts with availability and customer preferences. They may have already been replaced once with something different. Pull it out. Shouldn't be difficult. The best rudder bearings come from Jefa in Denmark. There are distributors worldwide. If they are simple bushings a machinist in any big city can make new ones.  

boatpoker

As Faster said,South Shore Yachts in Canada are the people to talk too. They are ex-C&C employees who bought up all the old inventory when the original C&C went belly up. They even have the original blueprints.  

RobGallagher

...good customer service too.  

Hi Faster (and aloof and all!) Thank you so much for your comments. Nice you are kinda dutch too. been here? I have no clue at all, when the boat was painted and which hull paint, nor anti fouling is used. Some of the scratches i wrote about are maybe up to 2 mm deep. I now own the C&C for about 1,5 year, the previous owner owned her for about half a year and did not paint her. So at least it's over 2 - 2,5 years, could easlily be a year more. Above the waterline, besides the blisters, the painting looks very well done but has degraded through the years. I have good hopes the gelcoat is ok. The antifouling now has fallen off on 3 places, plates raging from a few square inches to a piece of about 2 x 35 inches or so at the transition to the keel. What hull paint and antifouling do you recommend? There is a Budgetmarine and Islandwaterworld on Curaçao too. I painted 2, sometimes 3 layers on the deck about 8 months ago with a local brand: AVF PAINTS Antilliaanse Verffabriek B.V. to see how it stays in the caribbean sun. The guy told me they soon would come with an anti fouling too but sofar no show at their website. About the bearings, is quite difficult to me, also the technical terms in English, i do not even yet know all the names in Dutch. Unfortunately i am busy with all kind of things (work too....) and want to read in coming week(s). Most appreciated! goed weekend. Nico  

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  2. C&C 33 MKI Rudder

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  3. C&C Stainless Mast Bracket

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  4. C&C Gate Brace for Straight Stanchion

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  5. C&C New Style ToeRail 26'

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  1. C&C Type C Base

    Welcome to South Shore Yachts - Sales, Service, Parts & Advice. Toll Free (866) 628-4080 or (905) 468-4340 | E-mail Us. 0 $ 0.00. ... C&C Type C Base; C&C Type C Base $ 95.00. Add to cart. SKU: ... South Shore Yachts has been the premier source for hard to find yacht and boat parts, as well as providing top notch service and repairs on all ...

  2. C&C Yacht Parts

    Klacko Marine was the OEM metal fabricator for C&C Yachts. We still carry and stock a variety of C&C Yacht Parts. Menu. Contact Us; About Us; Arch Design; Services; Superwind; Solar; FAQ; C&C Yacht Parts. Posted on October 31, 2015 August 29, 2021 by klackomarine. Klacko: OEM Manufacturer of C&C Yachts Parts. Klacko Marine was the chief ...

  3. C&C owners, need parts?

    4,265. Nov 22, 2017. #3. 2savage said: A week or so ago I took a trip to South Shore Yachts in Niagara-on-the-Lake in Ontario Canada. I needed parts for my boat that needed to be custom manufactured and this company is the last bastion of all old C&C information. I picked up a new stern rail, some toe rail, rubbing strip, stanchions and ...

  4. South Shore Yachts C&C

    South Shor e Yachts. Find them here on Google. +19054684340. 1544 Four Mile Creek Rd, Virgil, ON L0S 1T0. Great source for replacement C&C yachts hardware. Rob and Cody are a wealth of information for anything marine related. They also are one of the very few shops that still provide NavTec Rod Rigging Parts and Service.

  5. C & C Landfall 35 rudder assembly

    Here's one C&C Yachts - C&C Photo Album & Resource Center _____ Say yes to: hot, stolen, passionate ... South Shore Yachts in Ontario. Ex C&C employees with some parts still on hand and have specs and blueprints for most others. toll free at 866 628-4080 ... Is anybody replaced rudder on C&C 38 landfall? The Steering Wheel turning hard. The ...

  6. C&C Archives

    Professional Rigging Services and C&C OEM Distributor South Shore Yachts Find them here on Google +19054684340 1544 Four Mile Creek Rd, Virgil, ON L0S 1T0 Great source for replacement C&C yachts hardware. Rob and Cody are a wealth of information for anything marine related. They also are one of the very few shops that still

  7. Rob MacLachlan

    Certified Professional Yacht Broker Ontario - Find Used Yachts and Boats for Sale in Ontario 1544 Four Mile Creek Road, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario Call us: 8666284080

  8. Opinion: C&C Boats? Specifically, 29 Mk 2?

    There is a company called South Shore Yachts which has many parts and drawing for the original designs. The guys at South Shore worked for the original C&C company and know the designs intimately. ... time to sell. If you like sailing a quick, responsive boat, the 29-2 is one to take a close look at. Like most of the C&C Yachts, they were ...

  9. C&C Type A Base

    Welcome to South Shore Yachts - Sales, Service, Parts & Advice. Toll Free (866) 628-4080 or (905) 468 ... C&C Type A Base; C&C Type A Base $ 95. ... Dimensions: 6 × 6 × 6 in: For more than 2 decades, South Shore Yachts has been the premier source for hard to find yacht and boat parts, as well as providing top notch service and repairs on ...

  10. Rudder bearing replacement C&C 36 + other issues

    There is a good supplier of CnC parts in Canada.. they could probably help you out if you haven't already contacted them: South Shore Yachts | Certified Yacht Broker, C&C Parts and Service btw.. sloppy rudder bushings are pretty common on older boats. I think that vintage of C&C used Bomar hatches, they are still around and Southshore may stock ...

  11. South Shore Yachts

    POSTED May 10, 2017 by southshoreadmin30. Since 1991, South Shore Yachts has earned a reputation as a trusted source for hard to find yacht parts. We are also a Certified Professional Yacht Broker in Ontario.

  12. C&C 30 Mast Bracket

    C&C Mast Parts; C&C 30 Mast Bracket; C&C 30 Mast Bracket $ 325.00. Add to cart. SKU: CC30MBSS. Availability: In stock Size: 8 × 8 × 4 in ... Weight: 2 lbs: Dimensions: 8 × 8 × 4 in: For more than 2 decades, South Shore Yachts has been the premier source for hard to find yacht and boat parts, as well as providing top notch service and ...

  13. C&C On Deck Stanchion Base

    Welcome to South Shore Yachts - Sales, Service, Parts & Advice. Toll Free (866) 628-4080 or (905 ... C&C On Deck Stanchion Base $ 150.00. ... Fits 1″ stanchions. Additional information. Weight.5 lbs: Dimensions: 4 × 4 × 6 in: For more than 2 decades, South Shore Yachts has been the premier source for hard to find yacht and boat parts, as ...

  14. Marine Hardware Archives

    Professional Rigging Services and C&C OEM Distributor South Shore Yachts Find them here on Google +19054684340 1544 Four Mile Creek Rd, Virgil, ON L0S 1T0 Great source for replacement C&C yachts hardware. Rob and Cody are a wealth of information for anything marine related. They also are one of the very few shops that still

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    Every yacht for sale in moscow listed here. Every boat has beautiful hi-res images, deck-plans, detailed descriptions & videos.

  18. Ferretti Yachts and Riva to attend Moscow Boat Show 2013

    Luxury yacht Ferretti 530 was very keen to undertake in collaboration once again with AYT - Advanced Yacht Technology, Ferretti Group Engineering Division and Studio Zuccon International Project.The compact dimensions, 16 meters long and almost 5 meters wide, allow the 530 yacht to deliver grand Italian luxury and cruising immersed in such comfort until now unheard of in a yacht of this size.

  19. Yachting Resources

    For more than 2 decades, South Shore Yachts has been the premier source for hard to find yacht and boat parts, as well as providing top notch service and repairs on all makes and models. We're the Ontario dealers for Bavaria Yachts, Raymarine, Vacuflush and more. Think of us first for all your boating parts, repair and service needs.

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    Dream Yachts_Monte Carlo, Moscow, Russia. 5 likes · 4 were here. Компания Dream Yachts - официальный дилер роскошных француз