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• Boat REF#  ·  142205
• Length  ·  8.20m
• Year  ·  2007
• Construction  ·  Foam Core
• Underwater profile  ·  Multihull
• Sleeping berths  ·  4
• Engine  ·  1 x gasoline 6hp, Tohatsu 4-stroke (2007)
• Lying  ·  Prov. Barcelona

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Sloop rigged Carbon Fibre spars (2007) with Other standing rigging (2007)

Electrical Systems

12 volt battery, 1 batteries charged by: shore power

Construction

Accommodation.

2 burner propane Stove

6 sheet winches 1 anchors (Rocnor 9kg) 5.00m of chain 10.00m of rode

Nav Equipment

GPS/plotter: Garmin 192c, mediterraneo; GPS: Garmin GPSMap 76S; Bidata Raymarine ST40 (2010); VHF-DSC: Icom IC-M411

Safety Equipment

1 bilge pumps (1 manual / 0 electric)

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Review of the W17 ..... by a noted European racer

INTRODUCTION:   In 2020, I was contacted by a Farrier racer in Germany who was interested in upscaling his F82R for race performance.  He had already built and mounted new amas of a more modern design as well as adding C-foils for added stability, so was now looking to update his rig.   With new sails planned, I ended up designing a new Mark.ll Wingmast for him and the excellent results he had with this in subsequent years led this intrepid skipper to become interested in the new design work I was undertaking, presently represented by the W17.    As an engineer with an enquiring mind, he expressed an interest to come out to North America to see and test the W17 for himself, something that I was totally supportive of.    His name is Andr é  Baetz and as there was another W17R not too far away, I organized that Andr é  and I would trail my boat out to Maine on the US East Coast, so that he would have a 2nd boat to sail and therefore not confine his input to just one source.   As Andr é is a respected and successful skipper in Europe, I consider his observations worth sharing, so after a week sailing in Maine and another two in Vermont, Andr é returned home with an agreement that I would get a report from him in the coming days or weeks.   True to his word, I now have it.

So here it is with some pics added.   I have added Andr é 's sailing bio at the end.                                                      Mike.

  =================================================================================

My Review of the W17 trimaran  ,.....   (by André Baetz,  August 2023) 

My very first reaction came when I prepared to lower the rudder.   Compared to my long deep transom-hung foil on my F82R, this one looked like a postage stamp!   I was told it was small to be able to sail in shallow draft but also, that because it was installed UNDER the bottom as a spade rudder, it was more efficient.  This way the bottom of the main hull works as an endplate, something which is not possible on my F82R where I partly fly the main hull. The rudder blade of the W17 also has an upper fence to cut risk of ventilation when heeled, but I was still skeptical, and rather condemned it even before trying it.

After pushing off, my first sense was that the boat was very quiet and seemed to just slip through waves like it was specially lubricated .  Rather eerie but also very satisfying. 

I have to admit that although the main hull looks like a box in section (something I had never sailed in before), as soon as I was sailing, that thought was completely erased, as the boat sails far better than any box I could have imagined!   The amas have an asymmetrical trapezoidal shape that I came to appreciate only later when working upwind and also sailing in waves .. but more on that later.       ( Image: Andr é being dropped off for a test sail )

Once under way, the light helm was no surprise to me either … but I have to admit, the boat responded better to that ‘pocket handkerchief of a rudder’ than I expected. Guess the effect of being tucked completely under the main hull is worth more than I first thought.   Related to any change or correction of the boats course. the rudder angle is higher than on my F82R so I still think that a rudder with the same area but of higher aspect ratio could make steering even more immediate and further reduce the drag of the boat.  Of course, that tweak will depend on whether sailing in shallow water is a requirement or not.

The rudder of the W17 still kicked up easily when it hit the bottom and this brought with it a wedge of the hull bottom .. an arrangement I had not seen before.  But with a wide alloy hinge at the deck and being pocketed in at the hull bottom, it would be even stronger than the standard 'pintles and gudgeons' used on most small boats I’d seen.

In fact, the design is bristling with new ideas which is fine with me, but only if they work better than other proven solutions.   Surprisingly, they all seemed to.

For example, the halyards that exit the mast wall are kept tight to the surface with a new circular disc cleat that Mike developed.   This allows the rope tension to ‘pinch’ the rope after one revolution, so that the small flat camcleat below it, only has to hold the end down.  It’s light, compact, low cost and fast to use and was still working well after 8 seasons of use on the designers personal boat.  

Tiller extensions are 2 meter long, but virtually unbreakable as they are inexpensive PVC tubes.  If the tiller load were high, these would not work well in compression, but the load is hardly measurable so they are a great solution for this particular boat.

Unlike most small boats with a daggerboard, this one is designed to kick back about 30 degrees, so absorbing the initial shock on any underwater obstacle. As I once sailed my rigid daggerboard onto a rock, I really like this one.   But with the slightly overlength case and slot, I was surprised how little water slopped up, as the cockpit floor is only about 5cm above the waterlevel when sailing. Although I could not see it, I was told this was mainly due to the rear of the case interior having 3 large inverted ‘teeth’ that serve to kill any synchronous slop.    If so, it’s simple and it works.

During most of the days I sailed, there was no water or spray coming on board so I’d rate the boat as much drier than most as the near vertical sides of all 3 hulls just slice through the slop and leave it remarkably undisturbed.  It has to be the main reason it’s also so quiet. Between the main hull and the amas of my own boat I always observed two waves, one from the main hull and one from the ama bow which meet in the middle of the gap between the hulls causing a wave crest. These waves just don't exist on  the W17 so I’m guessing that the wave making drag must be measureably lower.

(Image: note the low bow wave from each hull)

Mind you, it would be hard for me to accept that this boat would not do even better with the board fully down, but this would have to be carefully measured to be sure, as more board is more drag.    But with rounded hulls that have precious little side grip, a long board adds more lift than drag so clearly pays off.  With the W17, I am now not so sure that still applies.

I also had a day when it was blowing 20k so it was a chance to try out the storm mainsail.   On the W17, the aft-facing wingmast-tiller needs access to the boom to limit mast rotation but on this boat, the mainsail rolls around the boom.  So the designer has suggested a tight strap to go around the rolled sail, with a D-ring for attaching the mast-tiller line.   We had a prototype of this strap on-board but the high load on the tiller dragged it forward, so allowing excessive mast rotation.  But we figured out a solution,  By lashing the strap back to the outhaul, it could no longer slide forward.  That worked much better.  I could now concentrate on the reduced rig.

The boat handled this so easily that there was no panic in the strong wind and we continued to make good ground to windward.    We had strapped up the ½ furled jib to try and balance the rig but the jib partly pulled out high up, so the shape became pretty inefficient.   In the short waves, we missed a couple of tacks and had to sail in reverse to get on the new tack.  We also stuffed the bow under a couple of times in the near 1 meter waves that were also very short, but never lost way, so that ‘pocket handkerchief rudder’ continued to surprise me.  

After talking with the designer, we went out on another windy day, this time with the full jib.  He explained how it’s often beneficial to trim weight aft when tacking in waves and sure enough, I did not miss another tack after that.   So, like all new boats, there are little tricks to learn and then they become endearing to you as part of your growing unity with your boat.

(Image: Andre sails Magic across the bow of Merlin )

I also got to sail the boat singlehanded and the reduced displacement was immediately apparent as the boat really accelerated in the puffs in a most satisfying manner and the boat was frankly a thrill to sail like this as it demanded very little physical effort from me.   Clearly worth keeping it light.

Overall, for what is still a small boat (mine is 27ft after all), the W17 felt very stable and seemed perfectly capable of looking after me in all realistic conditions.  With her ama buoyancy well forward of the main hull buoyancy, much pitching is dampened out so pitching was never an issue in the 3 weeks I spent sailing the two boats.

There are lots of different places to sit and they are mostly very comfortable ones.  There are also no less than 8 small ‘deck’ lockers to stuff things into, excluding the two large ‘holds’ forward and aft.  All great for any future camp cruising.

I started to imagine what a larger boat with these hulls and general layout would be like and the thought is so appealing that I left thinking there might well be a W19 in my future in a few years.

Overall, this is one impressive boat and I can see why it has become so popular for older sailors who still want efficient performance without all the backache and jumping around that a mono of this length would bring.   This boat is also very different from say 'an outrigger' like the W R 17 (Windrider) as it's higher off the water, has a far more spacious cockpit, goes way better upwind and is much drier and more wave-capable too.  So where you place the ‘R’ in the designation is important.  I mention this as I have seen occasional confusion on boat Forums. What I was testing was a W17R, not a WR17 ;).    For myself, I would not consider the Cruising rig as the boat is very stable and sail area can always be reduced.  Having more for the lighter winds would be what I would be looking for, but then, I still have racing in my blood and that’s not everyone's choice.   It does after all take extra discipline to reef early.

Image: Andre returns Magic to the ramp after another day of sailing

So yes, after 3 weeks of playing with this new toy, I have to give this design a very positive ‘thumbs up’ and if its design goals match yours, just plan a couple of years boat building as this one is not a production boat …. at least, not yet.

Plywood kits are apparently available though: .... in Europe, Australia and North America, and the CNC tape can also be purchased individually from the designer for making a kit using your own plywood.   

As the health gurus say “JUST DO IT!”

Regards, André   

BIO of  André Baetz Ing. (European  trimaran racer)

Since writing this review, Andr é returned to the European racing scene and in Sept 2023, entered the most popular race in Europe, the SilverRudder … where 450 boats race the 130 miles around a large Danish island.    There were two multihull classes, “Over and Under 28ft”.  Andr é made the Small Multi group but was up against a couple of very fast demountable DIAM 24 trimarans’-  lightweight hi-tech open day boats just perfect for the moderate conditions.   In this hotly contested race and despite not having enough wind to benefit from his added foil stability, Andr é still took a 2 nd place.”

Here is the boat that Andr é owns and races in Europe .. a much modified F82R, here sporting her new sails and Mk.ll wingmast.

Congrats to Andr é once again, and many thanks for his effort to cross an ocean to check out the W17 for himself.   He said, "it was definitely worth it".

POSTSCRIPT:  Andr é and his boat Flaneur will be a major feature this fall in YACHT, one of the principal yachting magazines in Germany.

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"Trinamiet" is an Ian Farrier designed Farrier F9-R. The R means a larger rigging / rotating mast / lighter construction; more speed. The Farrier Folding System allows the boat to lie in the harbor or on a trailer with a maximum width of 2.50 meters. Unfolded and ready to sail, she is 6.85 m wide. Super performance characteristics, fine sailing behavior and excellent cruising possibilities at sea and shallow water. Very well maintained, improved and very well equipped by her owner, total refit 2015/2016.

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Rare, fast, and fun Farrier F25c all Carbon Fiber trailerable trimaran. One of only 48 boats made, hull #09 was delivered in 1999. This boat is capable of over 24 knots on the water and over 55 mph on land! All carbon fiber construction including newer carbon fiber Marstrom rotating mast. Synthetic rigging, Extended rudder, Carbon fiber bow sprit. All sheets and lines replaced within the past few years. Newer trampolines in excellent condition. Galvanized dual axle trailer with tires and bearings replaced two years ago. This boat has had a complete restoration over the past year including fresh Interlux Perfection paint inside and out and added epoxy paint on bottom. New acrylic tinted windows just resealed. New armstrong hatches keep water out of floats. Rebuilt winches and all hardware removed and rebedded. Turnkey condition and ready to sail! View Drone video here youtube.com/watch?v=V6gA46XgQfw

Equipment: Dacron Main and jib in excellent condition Kevlar screecher with rolling furler Two spinnakers Tacktick electronics 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro in excellent condition Dual axle galvanized trailer with new bunks

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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